Thursday, July 20, 2006

The Morning After

One practical and moral question I have asked a number of times on other forums has gone unanswered.

Assuming the following are true. There are certainly many good arguments for and few against.
1. Peak Oil is here. We're about to see a decline.
2. The US dollar is ready for a collapse. It's just waiting for a trigger point.
3. Global Warming is continuing to drain the economy through a variety of expenses.
4. Oil is going to keep rising in price.
5. Wages are going to remain flat or decline.
6. Food prices and in fact prices of most goods is going to continue to rise.
7. The Real Estate industry is imploding.
7a. Major job loss is coming as the Real Estate bubble created millions of new jobs that will disappear.
8. Every chance Congress has to hollow the economy or kill jobs, they jump on, foaming at the bit.
9. Etc...

So, the US is about to fall on hard times. Can the US continue to aid Israel forever? Can the US continue to fight in Iraq when the US economy collapses?

Now after this setup, let's say that war is raging between Israel and the US, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan, then the US pulls out and goes home...

What then for Israel?


At 1:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The US has inextricably committed itself in the ME. Plan war has commenced. This is the garden path that we, the unwilling, are being forcibly dragged down. I expect that as peak oil drifts down the slippery slope that more of it will be wasted on war, sabotage, and demonstrations of power. Israel will do the same thing that the US is doing, attempt to exert influence by force until they can no longer do so. The chances for a good ending to the story are slim.

At 1:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

it would seem that depsite all the wisdom that could be gained from their historical experiences, wisdom that would council to calm down and get along, that israel and her people are on course to have it all or nothing. sad really. for the fanatical lunacy, on both sides mind you, of a few, the rest will follow into the fray. i can see no other end than an all out campagin by both sides for and end of conflict through erradication...

At 1:41 PM, Anonymous JungleWoods said...

"Can the US continue to fight in Iraq when the US economy collapses?"
I believe that long after the pumps go dry in the US and we're walking or riding bikes (or dead) the war in the ME will still be raging. Every last drop of oil/energy the US has access to will be wasted there. Every US dime will be spent there while hoardes of Americans starve.

Say we DO pull out and go home??? (Fat Chance)
Israel will never give up, they'll die right where they stand.

At 9:01 AM, Anonymous Donna said...

>Can the US continue to aid Israel forever? Can the US continue to fight in Iraq when the US economy collapses?

Trick question, right? How could we possibly do either? I've thought of that myself, long ago: If the US were in a Great Depression, how could we possibly continue to support Israel? Answer: No way! There will come a point when we'll =have= to pull up stakes and go home.

And then, of course, what happens to Israel? Given that they have nukes, I don't know. Conflagration beyond what we've seen so far is my guess.

At 11:11 AM, Blogger peaknic said...

No way the US EVER stops giving to Israel. Tricky Dick even said: "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." As long as anybody will still take any amount of US dollars for anything of value, the US will be funelling them to Israel. They simply have too many US politicians bought and paid-for.

At 4:34 PM, Blogger confusedforeigner said...

As to point 2.

Are the neocons fearful that the Iranian decision to create a euro oil bourse is just that trigger?

The sabre rattling in earnest began at the time when the Iranian plan was mooted/announced.

Anyone know the Chinese and Indian positions on paying for their oil in Euros?


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